Weekly Ketchup: Even More Tough Guys for The Expendables 3?

Plus, Terry Gilliam?s next project and a pair of biopic roles for Robert Pattinson and Zoe Saldana.

This Week's Ketchup includes biopics about two influential 20th century women (Nina Simone and Gertrude Bell), new entries in the Hangover and Expendables franchises, and new roles for Dakota Fanning, Jesse Eisenberg, Tom Hardy, Robert Pattinson, Michael Shannon, and Christoph Waltz.


This Week's Top Story

THE EXPENDABLES 3 GETS NICOLAS CAGE, HOPES FOR BLADE, INDY, AND HARRY

The Expendables 2 is first opening in theaters this weekend, but producer Avi Lerner is already talking up the even bigger stars he hopes to entice into appearing in The Expendables 3. And according to Lerner, one of them, Nicolas Cage, already signed on. Here's what Avi Lerner said to TotalFilm on the subject, exactly, "We've approached Clint Eastwood to be one of the guys, we've got a character in mind for him. We're talking to Harrison Ford. [And we want] Wesley Snipes when he comes back from prison." Of course, all of this presuming that Lionsgate will be greenlighting a third film, but #2 would have to be a pretty disastrous flop worldwide in order for them not to move ahead. Something else to consider, that might make for a fun guessing game, is to try to guess who Lerner's second (or third or fourth) picks for each of these characters might be. If the "Clint Eastwood" or "Harrison Ford" roles don't go to those specific gentlemen, who's likely to be the more easily cast actor to stand in their stead (ie, cheaper and more likely to say yes)?

Fresh Developments This Week

#1 CHRISTOPH WALTZ KNOWS HOW TO SOLVE TERRY GILLIAM'S THE ZERO THEOREM

This month is the 10th anniversary of the release of the documentary Lost in La Mancha, and even now, Terry Gilliam's The Man Who Killed Don Quixote still eludes actually getting produced and finished. Although Terry Gilliam is sort of famous now for his difficulties in getting dream projects going, he has actually stayed more active than some of his contemporaries, with the release of three movies in the last 10 years (The Brothers Grimm, Tideland, and The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus). It's true that his more recent films have started racking up some "Rotten" RT scores, but Terry Gilliam remains one of those rare directors who is easily forgiven latter transgressions in light of former successes. One of those success was Brazil, and Terry Gilliam's next project (in lieu of The Man Who Killed Don Quixote ever getting made) seems to bear more than a few resemblances to that 1985 critical hit and "cult classic." Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds) will star in The Zero Theorem as "an eccentric computer genius bent on discovering the purpose of existence, or lack thereof, through a mysterious object," all of which is set in an "Orwellian world" dominated by secret cameras and shadowy authority figures. Production is scheduled to start in Europe on October 22nd, and if it doesn't, well, that's probably just fate showing exactly what a massive grudge it holds against Terry Gilliam.


#2 CAN ANIMATED MOVIES HAVE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF LENS FLARES TOO?

Following the critical and box office success of last year's Rango, Paramount Pictures is preparing to re-establish the studio's presence in the field of animated movies (which it used to have back around 10 years ago). The studio had already announced The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie 2, but this week, we learned that of another project, and the possibility of many others. First up, one of Paramount's favorite directors is J.J. Abrams (Super 8, Star Trek), but something that Abrams has never touched before is an animated movie, which will now change with his involvement in an untitled film for which there are no other details. Paramount is also developing an adaptation of the Penny Arcade online comic strip (called The New Kid), but the other big news here is that Paramount is looking to develop more movies based on their popular Nickelodeon shows. The list of shows that might get movie adaptations includes, but is not necessarily limited to, such shows as Dora the Explorer, The Legend of Korra, and Monkey Quest.


#3 DC VILLAINS TOM HARDY AND MICHAEL SHANNON UNITE FOR THE LONG RED ROAD

Directors and producers sometimes cast actors that represent a similar approach. So, it's perhaps not surprising that the two actors who were cast as the villains in director/producer Christopher Nolan's two most recent DC Comics movies have now been cast in the same movie together. Tom Hardy (Bane in The Dark Knight Rises) and Michael Shannon (General Zod in next year's Man of Steel) have been cast the independent drama The Long Red Road, adapted from the play by Brett C. Leonard (writer/director of 2004's Jailbait). Tom Hardy will play Sam (who he also played on stage), an alcoholic who lives on an Indian reservation in South Dakota, and Michael Shannon will play his brother. There's been no announcement yet as to who will direct the movie version, but Philip Seymour Hoffman did direct the Chicago production in 2010 that Tom Hardy starred in.


#4 ROBERT PATTINSON TO PLAY LAWRENCE OF ARABIA IN QUEEN OF THE DESERT

Last year, it was announced that Angelina Jolie was attached to star in Gertrude Bell, a biopic produced by Ridley Scott about a British woman who was instrumental in early 20th Century Middle East politics and the formation of nations like Iraq and Jordan. Hollywood, however, often moves a lot slower than independent filmmakers. And so, this is where Werner Herzog (Grizzly Man, Rescue Dawn) enters the story, as the director of a completely different Gertrude Bell biopic called Queen of the Desert. Instead of an American faking an accent, Herzog's film will feature English (by way of Australia) actress Naomi Watts as Gertrude Bell. One of the figures that was central to Bell's life and work was T.E. Lawrence (AKA Lawrence of Arabia), and that's what this week's news really focused on. The reason for that is that it is Robert Pattinson who will be costarring as T.E. Lawrence, and well, Robert Pattinson sells more papers and gets more clicks, presumably than Werner Herzog or Naomi Watts. As for the Angelina Jolie movie, there's a very strong chance that if Queen of the Desert is successful, that other Gertrude Bell movie will probably be shelved now (and the opposite might happen if it isn't).


#5 PLEASE DON'T LET ZOE SALDANA AS NINA BE MISUNDERSTOOD

Like many, many other musical biopics, the notion of a Nina Simone biopic (called Nina) has been struggling to be realized for several years now, with R&B singer Mary J. Blige the most publicized choice to play Simone. Now that the independent project has enough financing so that filming is now scheduled to actually start in October in Los Angeles, there's a very different actress now attached to star. Instead of a singer-turned-actress, it will be dancer-turned-actress Zoe Saldana (Star Trek, Avatar) who will be portraying the jazz-singer-turned-civil-rights-activist. There are a lot of hyphenates in this story. David Oyelowo (Rise of the Planet of the Apes) has also been cast as Nina Simone's manager, Clifton Henderson. The script adapting Nina Simone's life story was written by Cynthia Mort (cowriter of The Brave One), who will also direct, making her feature film debut as director. In the meantime, it's also worth noting that Nina Simone's daughter (named just) Simone has vocally come out as being against this film, stating that it is unauthorized (among other things).



#6 JESSE EISENBERG AND DAKOTA FANNING TO PLAY (ECO) TERRORISTS

Something that Jesse Eisenberg and Dakota Fanning have in common is that they've both been spoofed on Saturday Night Live (well, technically, it was Eisenberg's portrayal of someone else), and now they'lll be in a movie together, too. Jesse Eisenberg and Dakota Fanning have been cast to join Peter Sarsgaard as a trio of eco-terrorists in the independent thriller Night Moves, about an attempt to blow up a river dam. Night Moves will be directed by Kelly Reichardt, who was also behind the camera for Wendy and Lucy and Meek's Cutoff. In other Fanning news, Dakota's little sister Elle Fanning has been cast in the movie adaptation of the Young Adult novel Olive's Ocean, which is also an independent production. Elle Fanning's character is described as "a teen who goes on a summer of soul searching after discovering that a classmate who recently died in a tragic accident had secretly hoped to become her friend."


Rotten Ideas of the Week

#3 JOHN GOODMAN CAST AS THE BAD GUY IN THE HANGOVER PART III

Thus far, most of the cast "news" for The Hangover Part III has been that various people from the first film were returning for the trilogy closer, which will reportedly be set in Las Vegas (again), Los Angeles and Tijuana, Mexico. This week, we got our first news about a new cast member in the form of John Goodman, who is described as playing an antagonist "in the vein of Paul Giamatti" (in The Hangover Part II). There's also talk about Sean Penn or Robert Downey, Jr. being talked to, but it's unclear if they would be playing other characters, or if they were in discussions to play the role that eventually went to John Goodman (probably not, but maybe?). Meanwhile, in other The Hangover-related news, Bradley Cooper is currently in talks to star in an independent crime thriller called Bad Blood and Trouble, in which Cooper would play a 1950s detective in Miami, for director J. Blakeson (The Disappearance of Alice Creed). Bradley Cooper also remains in contention for the male role in Clint Eastwood's new version of A Star is Born, which Beyonce has long been attached to star in. The Hangover Part III is one of the week's Rotten Ideas because of the low 35% "Rotten" score for The Hangover Part II.


#2 THE ROBOCOP REMAKE IS ROCKED BY A RAUCOUS REVIEW

Generally, the Weekly Ketchup doesn't address script reviews, mostly because a lot can happen between one draft (or another) and the finished product. This story, however, is about a script review that received much more online attention than most do, mostly because it involves a previously controversial remake that started to be more warmly receptive once the director was hired, and an intriguing casting process started. That remake is of course RoboCop, the director is Jose Padilha (Elite Squad), and the impressive cast includes Joel Kinnaman (as Murphy), Jackie Earle Haley, Samuel L. Jackson, Gary Oldman, and Michael K. Williams. The script review in question was written by Drew McWeeney (formerly Moriarty at AICN, now of HitFix.com), in a series of posts on the Twitter.com service, as collected for your convenience at Collider.com. The script review was more than just negative, it was brutal, and if it represents the movie that is actually produced, could represent the point at which the fan collective, such as it is, turns against this remake. Reasons for McWeeney's derision towards the script include dialogue that seems to mock the original RoboCop, other dialogue that paraphrases dialog from the original, a series of armors that recalls both Iron Man and Transformers, and a subplot in which RoboCop fights Al Qaeda terrorists. Really. Meanwhile, casting on the remake continues, with Marianne Jean-Baptiste (from TV's Without a Trace) now on board to play the chief of police.


#1 THIS WEEK IN EXPLODING MOVIES: DAREDEVIL (AT FOX), EASTERN PROMISES 2, AND HENRY SELICK'S LATEST

This was a big week for movie projects getting the old heave ho. It was just last week that the world found out that director Joe Carnahan (The A-Team, The Grey) was talking to Fox about taking over their Daredevil reboot, and already this week, we found out that the deal was pretty much over and kaput. It now appears highly unlikely that Fox will get the film produced by the October 10th deadline, and so Marvel Studios will likely soon get the rights back for Daredevil and all of his ancilliary characters (which is probably not Rotten news at all, admittedly). Something else that is pretty awesome news is that Joe Carnahan gave the Internet the PG-13 and NC-17 "sizzle reels" that he put together to express to 20th Century Fox what he had in mind for his reboot of Daredevil, which apparently would have been set in the 1973 of movies like Serpico and The French Connection. Joe Carnahan wasn't the only director who recently discovered a crime/mafia-related project to be shuttled by a studio, as that is also the fate of David Cronenberg's long planned Eastern Promises 2. A movie that probably was distinctly not like Daredevil or Eastern Promises 2 was whatever stop-motion animation director Henry Selick (Coraline, The Nightmare Before Christmas) was working on Disney... because now he's not. If there is good news in all of this, it's that Disney still wants to work with Henry Selick on another movie, which is an adaptation of the Neil Gaiman children's book The Graveyard Book.

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Comments

The.Watcher

The Watcher

00 - This year has produced a lot of surprises for me, some good, some bad. Avengers and DKR were nowhere near as good as I would have liked, Bourne Legacy turned out to be a mess and Expendables 2 is.... fresh?! Dafuq? But seriously, I'll go watch the second part in cinemas and probably like it if it's better than the first one. What can I say? I'm a sucker for 80s action movies.

Nicolas Cage is still a favorite actor of mine, even if I only watch 1 out of every 10 movies he makes nowadays. Certainly seeing him in E3 would be a blast, along with Ford, who, let's face it, has gotten prone to taking any and all projects coming his way recently. Snipes is awesome, and he'll probably agree as well. As for Clint - not a chance, but hey, maybe Seagal will take his place...

01 - Gilliam will always have a soft spot in my heart, no matter how absolutely god-awful all 3 of his recent films were. Hopefully he'll finally hit a homer with this one. It sounds interesting, at the very least.

02 - Ok... so, JJ cartoon - I'll watch. Spongebob I have no interest in - never understood the appeal of his character. Watching a bunch of idiots is infuriating, not entertaining. The Penny Arcade this is intriguing. I wonder if Mike and Jerry will be involved? And if so - in what capacity? No interest in those other 3.

03 - Hardy and Shannon? Yes, please. Sounds very, very interesting. And Hoffman directing, too. Jack Goes Boating was a serviceable debut, let's hope he honed his skills a bit since then.

04 - Why does this dude keep getting work? I was just starting to celebrate the lack of LeDouche in new releases, and now it seems like Mr. Sparkle has taken his place. I haven't seen Cosmopolis yet, but even so I don't know if I'll ever be able to forgive Cronenberg for casting him.

Wait... what? Herzog is casting Sprakle now? WHATTHEFUCKISHAPPENING?

05 - Read the word "musical," lose all interest.

06 - This is interesting. I don't like Fanning, but I'm cool with Eisenberg and Sarsgaard. Movie sounds interesting, too. I'm re-reading The Stand now after many years, and the scene comes to mind where, when the virus is spreading, a teenage terrorist tries to blow up a plant and kills himself in the process. The plant wasn't connected to the viral outbreak. It was a throwaway line but it stuck with me, and I wonder if this is the potential outcome of the film?

07 - I still haven't seen II cos of the shitty reviews, but I dunno, good for Goodman, man.

08 - Wow. Brutal. I've been high on this one ever since the director was announced, but if this is truly the fucking shooting script, then all is lost. My Odin, but does that sound terrible.

09 - Ok, so a) good for DD. I'll trust Marvel/Disney with a Marvel character eons before I trust FOX, who fucked up with their versions of the eponymous DD, FF and XMen (even tho FC was good, the 2 before were shit). Even though I would prefer a darker version of DD, since he's kind of a noire character, I still think adding him to the Marvel universe would be interesting. B) Good. Eastern Promises was awesome, but it's a movie that really didn't need a sequel. Maybe now Cronenberg and Mortensen can do something original again. C) It's always a shame when a stop motion movie gets canceled, there's not enough of those being made these days. However, Gaiman is an awesome writer, and a good adaptation of the Graveyard Book could be awesome, too.

Aug 17 - 06:27 PM

Jacob H.

Jacob Holmes

I'm with you on number 4. To me, there is only one Lawrence and his name is Peter O' Toole. I also agree that there are too few stop-motion projects these days, but I think that major studios are seeing that they are worth the effort to produce. We got not one but THREE stop motion features this year(Pirates! Band of Misfits, ParaNorman, and Frankenweenie). Seeing as Coraline is one of my favorite animated movies, I would love to see Selick adapt more of Neil Gaiman's work

Aug 17 - 08:12 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

#4 ROBERT PATTINSON TO PLAY LAWRENCE OF ARABIA IN QUEEN OF THE DESERT

I have a fresher development in my bowels....

Aug 18 - 10:12 PM

Shawn Gordon

Shawn Gordon

I can't see Clint Eastwood or Harrison Ford doing it, by maybe they can cast Michael Caine and Kurt Russell.

Aug 17 - 07:20 PM

Cinema-Maniac

Caesar Mendez

If Clint Eastwood and Harrison Ford are in the third Expendables it'll be awesome. I do wonder if Lerner will approach Liam Neeson, Iko Uwais, Kurt Russell, Donnie Yen (again), and (hopefully) Jeremy Renner. I do hope that Steven Seagal name is nowhere attach to The Expendables 3, the guy sucks at acting (which is saying allot considering who's in The Expendables series) and he fails too in the action department.

Jesse Eisenberg and Dakota Fanning in a movie together sounds interesting, but got to see a trailer first.

Aug 17 - 07:49 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

I like how Nic Cage is now knocking people down to get the official Expendable bump. He seems a little offended. "Expendable? Hello?"

Terry Gilliam's new project has skyrocketed up my anticipation list, taking the recently vacated "Frank of Francis" slot.

Drew McWeeney. OK. If you read this little bitch, you're probably too stupid to enjoy Robocop satire anyway. This prick is Harry Knowles on Slim Fast. This is a hit, Murphy's got enemies. Scripts don't just get leaked to lapdogs online everyday. Don't get fooled by this nonsense. McWeeney wants to be Fanboy Moses? Hey, let the suckers go.

I don't know what FOX's belt tightening is all about. Somebody get fired in the front office? The best films are independant, it seems. Any Herzog is worth watching. "The Long Red Road" looks good, and I'm only interested in whether of not Simone's daughter actually read the script before making her protest. Otherwise, that has promise as well.

Aug 17 - 08:02 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Janson... his name is McWeeney. Fucking Mc..Weeney. That name is classically awful. Either way, I figured the Robocop remake was gonna suck.

Aug 17 - 09:08 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Man, did you read the article? McWeeny was groaning over what are obviously satirical elements, like references to the first film, how the film makes fun of advertising and hype, imagining the technology on a global level (think drones). That Collider article that's linked, with McWeeny and Matt Goldberg (another miserable fanboy professional snark-sucker) hating and hissing like school girls. I like how both the Ketchup and Goldberg start out "We don't usually talk about pre-shoot scripts" and then feel no resistence to commence to talking about a pre-shoot script. If only Devin Farachi was there, they could have gazzed the galactic fantastic. F#ck 'em.

Aug 17 - 09:22 PM

Jacob H.

Jacob Holmes

I'm with you on number 4. To me, there is only one Lawrence and his name is Peter O' Toole. I also agree that there are too few stop-motion projects these days, but I think that major studios are seeing that they are worth the effort to produce. We got not one but THREE stop motion features this year(Pirates! Band of Misfits, ParaNorman, and Frankenweenie). Seeing as Coraline is one of my favorite animated movies, I would love to see Selick adapt more of Neil Gaiman's work

Aug 17 - 08:12 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

#4 ROBERT PATTINSON TO PLAY LAWRENCE OF ARABIA IN QUEEN OF THE DESERT

I have a fresher development in my bowels....

Aug 18 - 10:12 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Am I the only one who hasn't liked Christoph Waltz in anything since Inglourious? Also, what's bad about John Goodman? He's had some bad movie's but he's also been awesome in roles in Arachnaphobia and Lewbowski. Don't get the logic that says John Goodman in The Hangover III is bad and Robert Pattinson in Lawrence of Arabia is a good idea?

Aug 17 - 08:20 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

Herner Werzog is why Queen of the Dessert is a Good idea. He is an outstanding filmmaker. Outstanding Filmmakers just happen to take chances on actors that most people think should stay in the tween Verse. It wasn't long ago when Leonardo Dicaprio was That pretty sissy boy from Titanic who has no place in a Scorsese film!

I agree with you about John Goodman. Even if it's a bad movie, I think John Goodman is fantastic.

Aug 17 - 08:25 PM

Riccardo Giannattasio

Riccardo Giannattasio

*Werner Herzog*

Aug 18 - 06:09 AM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

Thank you. As embarrassing as it is misspelling the name I am glad people can now see who I am talking about and hopefully enjoy his movies. Lot's of um Available on Netflix everybody! From Grizzly Man, Into the Abyss, to Caves of Forgotten Dreams!

Aug 18 - 03:38 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

The difference for me I guess is that Leonardo, River Phoenix, Keifer Sutherland, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp and pretty much everyone else whose successfully transitioned from Teen Idol to serious actor didn't require nearly as many high profile chances as Pattinson has. I would have said the same thing coming off the first and maybe even the second Twilight movie's when he was still somewhat of an unknown quantity. He's had many chances to show he's more than just the "Twilight guy" in films that had strong supporting casts, solid premises and quality writers Little Ashes, Water for Elephants and Bel Ami and they've all been pretty much critical and financial busts and worse he's never distinguished himself in them like DiCaprio and all those other guys did. Maybe it's time just to admit he's not a very good actor.

Aug 18 - 08:45 PM

kinghongkong

Lacuna Matata

I don't think your DiCaprio/Pattison comparison is a valid one here as anyone who thought DiCaprio didn't belong in a Scorsese film because of Titanic was myopic and not a film fan. Before Titanic, DiCaprio had already been robbed of an Oscar (in favor of a lifetime achievement Oscar for Tommy Lee Jones) for his work in What's Eating Gilbert Grape; had played opposite DeNiro wonderfully in This Boy's Life; had done the dark, Basketball Diaries; and had even done the bizarre (I mean that with respect) tween Romeo + Juliet.

I'm not anti-Pattison, as a matter of fact, I don't even think about him...but he's got a long way to go to even reach Leo's status before Titanic .

Aug 24 - 03:39 AM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I think The Hangover Three is a rotten idea, I don't think John Goodman being in any thing is a Rotten Idea.

Aug 17 - 08:20 PM

Jacob

Jacob Grimm

Agreed. Deeming it rotten simply because Part II sucked is just plain silly.

Aug 18 - 03:55 AM

Sande Gatherum

Sande Gatherum

As much as I did enjoy Hangover... It was painful to watch Hangover 2... It was such a bad movie. My question is what is 3 going to accomplish? Do we really need to revisit these characters again?

Aug 21 - 06:48 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Robert Pattinson would be more suited for Lawrence hates a Labia. For those who don't get it, I'm saying Robert Pattinson's acting style is more suited to gay porn.

Aug 17 - 08:22 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

HA! You know Lawrence was a gay freak, right? "I've seen lots of man-and-man loves: very lovely and fortunate some of them were." "I loved you, so I drew these tides of men into my hands", he wrote to "S.A.", believed to be his frequent companian, Selim Ahmed. When Lawrence was in a Syrian jail in 1917, he later wrote of a particular beating by whip, "a delicious warmth, probably sexual, was swelling through me". Indeed.

Aug 17 - 08:37 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Doesn't matter one bit to me, It's like Oliver Stones Alexander. I find the fact that they conquered the known world by age 33 or that they trained a group of bedouins into a formidible resistance group in the face of obstacles that would have crushed lesser men. Those achievements dwarf any sexual proclivities they may have had. Robert Pattinson on the other hand is far less accomplished thus opening him to gay porn humor.

Aug 18 - 08:34 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

Holy Crap...You saw Oliver Stones' Alexander. You sir are the stuff of Legends.

Aug 18 - 08:45 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Honestly I was really looking forward to it as a history buff, but I couldn't sit thru it til the end. I got up and walked out shortly after they arrived in India. Stone was just so far off base with the movie. That and A Thin Red Line are to this day the only movie's I've ever gotten up and left the theater before the end. I even powered through Battlefield Earth and Elektra.

Aug 19 - 06:28 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Hey, BB, I just thought it was funny that the idea of a gay porn version of Lawrence of Arabia just may be more accurate than you may have thought when you made the suggestion. Who knows? Maybe Patterson will be practicing his girl-giggle after all.

Aug 19 - 03:24 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

LOL, they could get K-Stew to play "Random Young Arab Boy #3".

Aug 19 - 04:21 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

Herner Werzog is why Queen of the Dessert is a Good idea. He is an outstanding filmmaker. Outstanding Filmmakers just happen to take chances on actors that most people think should stay in the tween Verse. It wasn't long ago when Leonardo Dicaprio was That pretty sissy boy from Titanic who has no place in a Scorsese film!

I agree with you about John Goodman. Even if it's a bad movie, I think John Goodman is fantastic.

Aug 17 - 08:25 PM

Riccardo Giannattasio

Riccardo Giannattasio

*Werner Herzog*

Aug 18 - 06:09 AM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

Thank you. As embarrassing as it is misspelling the name I am glad people can now see who I am talking about and hopefully enjoy his movies. Lot's of um Available on Netflix everybody! From Grizzly Man, Into the Abyss, to Caves of Forgotten Dreams!

Aug 18 - 03:38 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

The difference for me I guess is that Leonardo, River Phoenix, Keifer Sutherland, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp and pretty much everyone else whose successfully transitioned from Teen Idol to serious actor didn't require nearly as many high profile chances as Pattinson has. I would have said the same thing coming off the first and maybe even the second Twilight movie's when he was still somewhat of an unknown quantity. He's had many chances to show he's more than just the "Twilight guy" in films that had strong supporting casts, solid premises and quality writers Little Ashes, Water for Elephants and Bel Ami and they've all been pretty much critical and financial busts and worse he's never distinguished himself in them like DiCaprio and all those other guys did. Maybe it's time just to admit he's not a very good actor.

Aug 18 - 08:45 PM

kinghongkong

Lacuna Matata

I don't think your DiCaprio/Pattison comparison is a valid one here as anyone who thought DiCaprio didn't belong in a Scorsese film because of Titanic was myopic and not a film fan. Before Titanic, DiCaprio had already been robbed of an Oscar (in favor of a lifetime achievement Oscar for Tommy Lee Jones) for his work in What's Eating Gilbert Grape; had played opposite DeNiro wonderfully in This Boy's Life; had done the dark, Basketball Diaries; and had even done the bizarre (I mean that with respect) tween Romeo + Juliet.

I'm not anti-Pattison, as a matter of fact, I don't even think about him...but he's got a long way to go to even reach Leo's status before Titanic .

Aug 24 - 03:39 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

HA! You know Lawrence was a gay freak, right? "I've seen lots of man-and-man loves: very lovely and fortunate some of them were." "I loved you, so I drew these tides of men into my hands", he wrote to "S.A.", believed to be his frequent companian, Selim Ahmed. When Lawrence was in a Syrian jail in 1917, he later wrote of a particular beating by whip, "a delicious warmth, probably sexual, was swelling through me". Indeed.

Aug 17 - 08:37 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Doesn't matter one bit to me, It's like Oliver Stones Alexander. I find the fact that they conquered the known world by age 33 or that they trained a group of bedouins into a formidible resistance group in the face of obstacles that would have crushed lesser men. Those achievements dwarf any sexual proclivities they may have had. Robert Pattinson on the other hand is far less accomplished thus opening him to gay porn humor.

Aug 18 - 08:34 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

Holy Crap...You saw Oliver Stones' Alexander. You sir are the stuff of Legends.

Aug 18 - 08:45 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Honestly I was really looking forward to it as a history buff, but I couldn't sit thru it til the end. I got up and walked out shortly after they arrived in India. Stone was just so far off base with the movie. That and A Thin Red Line are to this day the only movie's I've ever gotten up and left the theater before the end. I even powered through Battlefield Earth and Elektra.

Aug 19 - 06:28 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Hey, BB, I just thought it was funny that the idea of a gay porn version of Lawrence of Arabia just may be more accurate than you may have thought when you made the suggestion. Who knows? Maybe Patterson will be practicing his girl-giggle after all.

Aug 19 - 03:24 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

LOL, they could get K-Stew to play "Random Young Arab Boy #3".

Aug 19 - 04:21 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Janson... his name is McWeeney. Fucking Mc..Weeney. That name is classically awful. Either way, I figured the Robocop remake was gonna suck.

Aug 17 - 09:08 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Man, did you read the article? McWeeny was groaning over what are obviously satirical elements, like references to the first film, how the film makes fun of advertising and hype, imagining the technology on a global level (think drones). That Collider article that's linked, with McWeeny and Matt Goldberg (another miserable fanboy professional snark-sucker) hating and hissing like school girls. I like how both the Ketchup and Goldberg start out "We don't usually talk about pre-shoot scripts" and then feel no resistence to commence to talking about a pre-shoot script. If only Devin Farachi was there, they could have gazzed the galactic fantastic. F#ck 'em.

Aug 17 - 09:22 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

I am bummed that there will be no EP 2. Though I think the first one can stand alone without a sequel.

I haven't seen Expendables 2 yet, but the first one was not that good. It seems the bigger budget has helped this one but I will wait to see it before I pass final judgement. Ford alone would make the 3rd a smash hit.

Aug 17 - 09:11 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Man, did you read the article? McWeeny was groaning over what are obviously satirical elements, like references to the first film, how the film makes fun of advertising and hype, imagining the technology on a global level (think drones). That Collider article that's linked, with McWeeny and Matt Goldberg (another miserable fanboy professional snark-sucker) hating and hissing like school girls. I like how both the Ketchup and Goldberg start out "We don't usually talk about pre-shoot scripts" and then feel no resistence to commence to talking about a pre-shoot script. If only Devin Farachi was there, they could have gazzed the galactic fantastic. F#ck 'em.

Aug 17 - 09:22 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

The thought of an adaption of a Korra movie is the only interesting news this week (that's if it's only being done either 2D or live-action, & not none of that CGI shit). How can you make a movie out of Dora? The dumb bitch can't even find a fucking mountain, which is big & has a giant fucking arrow pointing at it!!

Aug 18 - 01:17 AM

Riccardo Giannattasio

Riccardo Giannattasio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnpTcrtsN3U

Aug 18 - 06:10 AM

King  S.

King Simba

Best trailer ever! I'd pay to see that version of Dora!

Aug 19 - 01:54 PM

Billy B.

Billy Barnett

I guess the same way you make a Rugrats movie.

Aug 18 - 07:20 AM

Jacob

Jacob Grimm

Agreed. Deeming it rotten simply because Part II sucked is just plain silly.

Aug 18 - 03:55 AM

Sande Gatherum

Sande Gatherum

As much as I did enjoy Hangover... It was painful to watch Hangover 2... It was such a bad movie. My question is what is 3 going to accomplish? Do we really need to revisit these characters again?

Aug 21 - 06:48 PM

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